The ‘Better’ Indicators: Pricing & FAQs

UPDATED: Friday 27 October 2023   |   AUTHOR: Emini-Watch

Better Sine Wave, Momentum and Pro Am
for Multiple Time Frames (MTF)

$100 USD / month

MTF Indicators: New Multiple Time Frame indicators that plot 3 time frames
on 1 chart. Now it’s easier to read the chart and see the big picture.

MTF System: New Multiple Time Frame system that automatically plots the trend
and entry points. The most requested improvement to the ‘Better’ indicators.

Original Indicators: By changing 1 input you can switch the new indicators
back to the original (single time frame) version of the ‘Better’ indicators.

All Symbols & Timeframes: The indicators work on all symbols – futures,
forex and stocks. And on all timeframes – tick, minute or daily charts.

Online Video Tutorials: Everything you need to know: indicator installation,
chart settings, trend algorithm, entry signals, profit targets, etc.

Select your trading platform and click the button below:

FAQs about Subscribing

Click on any of the questions below to see the answer:

What differences are there between the original ‘Better’ indicators and the new ‘MTF’ versions?

The major difference is that a new Multiple Time Frame view of the indicators is now available. Previously you had to watch 3 charts simultaneously to determine trend direction and entry signals. Now the trend direction and entry signals are automatically shown on a single chart.

In addition, the code has been simplified and some of the more confusing elements (i.e. NoD, NoS, PT & St signals) removed. And if you still want the original indicators, just change 1 input of the MTF indicators and they switch back to the original single time frame versions.

I already own the original ‘Better’ indicators, what should I do?

You don’t have to do anything. But if you want an easier way to determine the trend and entry points then you should subscribe to the new indicator set.

The original indicators were withdrawn from sale in March 2016 and support for these indicators ended in March 2019. That is, after March 2019 the original indicator code will not be re-compiled if it ‘breaks’ with new versions of TradeStation, NinjaTrader or MultiCharts.

However, that does not mean that the indicators will not continue to work. The original indicator code has not needed to be changed / updated / re-compiled since August 2012 – and the indicators have continued to work. This is because the indicators do not rely on any ‘novel’ code functionality, use standard charting platform functions and the charting platforms have not fundamentally changed their compute engines.

So the indicators will continue to work until TradeStation, NinjaTrader or MultiCharts change something fundamental in their compute engines that ‘breaks’ the indicators. When or if this even happens is unknown and cannot be foreseen. And if a new version of TradeStation, NinjaTrader or MultiCharts were to ‘break’ the indicators, they would still continue to work on the version immediately prior to this new version.

Are the original ‘Better’ indicators still available for purchase?

No. It’s time to retire the original indicators – after all, they were released in February 2008. And after over 10 years it’s time to let them go and move on to newer and better things.

Which versions of TradeStation, NinjaTrader and MultiCharts do the indicators work on?

The indicators work on the latest versions of the trading platforms:

  • TradeStation: Versions 9.5 & 10, US & Global versions (but not Web Trading app)
  • MultiCharts: Versions 13 & 14, 64-bit (but not
  • NinjaTrader: Versions 7 & 8
Do the indicators work with the free version of NinjaTrader?

Yes. The indicators work with the free version of NinjaTrader. But to get live/intraday charts on NinjaTrader you will need either a NinjaTrader brokerage account or subscribe to one of NinjaTrader’s supported data feeds.

Do the indicators work on TradeStation Simulator and NinjaTrader Market Replay?

Yes. The indicators work on TradeStation Simulator and NinjaTrader Market Replay.

Do the indicators work the same way in TradeStation, NinjaTrader and MultiCharts?

Yes. The indicator values are calculated in a DLL and the exact same DLL is used in the TradeStation, NinjaTrader and MultiCharts indicators. Obviously the “look and feel” of the charts will be different and tick charts from different data feeds will never match exactly. But the indicators should be very similar between the different trading platforms.

TradeStation version of the indicators:

image of better indicators on tradestation tick chart

NinjaTrader version of the indicators for the exact same day:

image of better indicators on ninjatrader tick chart

More information at the bottom of the page here on tick chart differences.

Will you release the indicators for ThinkOrSwim, MT4, Sierra Chart, etc.?

Unlikely. Supporting multiple trading platforms is hard work and I’m a trader, first and foremost. Plus, many of these other platforms simply don’t have the functionality needed.

Will you release the indicators for TradingView?

Yes – just as soon as TradingView supports tick charts. Unfortunately TradingView has been promising tick chart support for years but with no clear release timeframes.

Do the indicators work on Forex, Commodities, Bonds, Stocks and ETFs?

Yes. The indicators (and Emini-Watch methodology) don’t just work on the Emini, they also work for trading Forex, Commodities, Bonds, Stocks and ETFs:

  • Forex: Stick to the futures contracts traded on the CME Globex exchange rather than the cash markets. This way you get the volume data needed for the Better Momentum and Better Pro Am indicators. More information in the Forex video here.
  • Commodities and Bonds: The indicators can be used for both day trading and swing trading. More information in the Commodities video here.
  • Stocks and ETFs: Stick to swing trading or if you want to day trade then choose the most liquid/high volume Stocks and ETFs. Smaller volume Stocks (in particular) are heavily gamed by the Pros and the uptick/downtick volume data is more erratic.
  • NQ, YM and TF: The indicators also work for trading NQ, YM and TF. Just adjust your tick chart settings to account for the lower transaction volumes. For day trading NQ use a 150 tick chart (or 1,350 if you’re swing trading). For day trading YM or TF use a 100 tick chart (or 900 if you’re swing trading).
Do the indicators work on minute, daily, candlestick, volume, range, momentum and renko charts?

The indicators work best on tick charts but can also be used on other chart types:

  • Minute charts: Better Pro Am (which calculates average trade size) is less accurate on minute charts than tick charts. On minute charts, the algorithm is a proxy and not actually measuring the average trade size. Better Sine Wave and Better Momentum work perfectly well on minute charts.
  • Daily charts: The indicators work on daily charts. Although Better Pro Am is using a proxy to measure average trade size on daily charts, I think it works well.
  • Candlestick charts: Better Pro Am and the new Multiple Time Frame system both use bar coloring that will interfere with candlestick charts. But the other indicators do work on candlestick charts.
  • Volume charts: Better Pro Am does not work on volume charts. But volume charts are very similar to tick charts so I suggest using tick charts instead.
  • Range charts: The indicators work on range charts. Range charts are very useful in smoothing out market turning points and Better Sine Wave works particularly well on range charts. (Note: Real-time and historic range charts on NinjaTrader are difficult to match up because of the rules NinjaTrader uses in starting new bars. This can be mitigated by starting charts at a particular date and time rather than x bars ago. TradeStation does not have these problems.)
  • Momentum charts: The indicators work on momentum charts. Momentum charts are very similar to range charts and the same comments apply.
  • Renko charts: Better Momentum and Better Pro Am do not work on renko charts. This is because (on TradeStation at least) the volume cannot be split between buying and selling. But Better Sine Wave does work on renko charts.

More information in the Volume, Range and Momentum Charts video here.

What data feeds do you recommend?

It is important to use a high quality data feed, particularly with tick charts. And make sure your data feed has both real-time and historic data.

  • TradeStation: The data feed is “in-built”. If you are day trading the Emini subscribe to the Globex Value Bundle for $20 pm. More information on TradeStation data feeds here.
  • NinjaTrader & MultiCharts: There are multiple data feed provider options. Kinetick, eSignal, Zen-Fire and Vision Financial are recommended. Kinetick and eSignal cover equities, futures, forex and indices. Zen-Fire and Vision Financial only cover futures.

Additional data feed comments:

  • Level I/II Data: The indicators only need ‘Level I’ data to calculate. The indicators do not use ‘Level II’/market depth data.
  • Kinetick: Make sure you are using the real-time data feed, not just the free EOD data that is included as part of NinjaTrader.
  • eSignal: You may need to adjust your tick charts because eSignal distributes “bundled” data from the CME. I recommend using a 200 tick chart instead of a 500 tick chart for Emini day trading – the bundling of data appears to add a factor of 2.5.
  • DTN iQ Feed: I do NOT recommend as customers have reported issues when switching between charts and Better Momentum does not work on 60 minute charts.
  • Interactive Brokers: I do NOT recommend as it is not a full tick-by-tick feed. More information at the bottom of the page here on the Interactive Brokers data.
Can I use the indicators on both my laptop and desktop?

Yes. Multiple computers are no problem but you can only use one at a time. Just copy the installation file to your second computer and follow the installation process.

Can I change trading platforms?

Yes. Just contact us and we’ll swap your subscription over. Alternatively, you can do it yourself by cancelling your subscription (using the ‘cancel’ link on your account page) and re-subscribing using one of the trading platform buttons above.

Can I get the indicators for multiple charting platforms?

Yes. Just click on the ‘upgrade to multiple platforms’ link on your account page. The subscription for multiple charting platforms is $125 USD/month. The payment you have already made for the current month will be prorated and deducted from your first month of the multiple platforms subscription.

Can I edit or modify the indicator code?

Open code is available for the TradeStation and MultiCharts versions of the indicators. Although the functions that calculate the signals are locked, the indicator and system code that calls the functions is open and can be customized. In this way you can write modified versions of the indicators or incorporate the signals into your own trading systems.

Do the indicators have input parameters that need to be changed or optimized?

No. Personally I hate optimized code and none of the indicators have input parameters that need to be changed based on the market traded or market conditions. The indicator inputs only control things like colors, alerts, etc.

Is the price a one-time fee or recurring monthly charge for the indicators?

The new indicators are available via a monthly subscription, billed automatically on a pre-paid, recurring basis.

Will my monthly subscription be renewed automatically?

Yes. Your subscription will be renewed each month and the credit card you used at sign-up will be billed automatically, on the same date you first subscribed. You can update your credit card details at any time by using the ‘update billing details’ link on your account page.

What payment options do you accept?

We accept Visa, MasterCard and American Express credit (and debit) cards. Unfortunately we do not accept PayPal at this time.

How long will it take to receive the indicators after payment is made?

Literally seconds. Once payment is confirmed you are immediately sent to your account page where you can download the indicator installer file.

What is the installation procedure for the indicators?

On your account page there is a video (one for TradeStation and one for NinjaTrader) showing exactly how to install. These are the steps:

  1. Input your trading platform customer number on your account page.
  2. Download the indicator installer file from your account page.
  3. Close your trading platform.
  4. Run the installer and input your Emini-Watch subscriber number (which can be found on your account page).
  5. Add the indicators to any chart.
Can I get help if I have a technical problem installing?

Yes, absolutely. If you have any technical difficulties installing then just send an email and we will help you. Don’t forget to check the trading platform version you are using first.

Do the online video tutorials include setups and how to use the indicators to trade?

Yes. The online video tutorials tell you everything you need to know:

  • Indicator installation and default settings
  • Chart settings for trading Eminis, Forex, Stocks, Indices & Commodities
  • Why and how markets turn
  • Trading with multiple time frames
  • Typical setup sequence using the 3 non-correlated indicators
  • What confirmation signals to look for
  • Profit targets and where to exit
  • Low risk re-entry points

In addition, the Emini trading blog has video updates so you can see the indicators in action and how I use them to trade. Plus this is a useful page on a range of Emini trading topics.

How often are the indicators updated and what does each update cost?

From time-to-time the indicator and system code is improved and updated. In addition, the indicators are kept up-to-date with new versions of the trading platforms. These updates are included in the monthly subscription. Customers are emailed as soon as a new version of the indicators is available.

What is your refund and return policy?

In general, there are no refunds. We will only consider a refund in exceptional circumstances, for genuine reasons and at our discretion.

Can I trial before I subscribe?

No. But the monthly subscription fee is very reasonable and will give you a month to evaluate the indicators and signals.

Can I cancel my subscription at any time?

Yes. You can cancel your subscription anytime using the ‘cancel’ link on your account page. Refunds are not given for any remaining pre-paid period.

To cancel, log in to your account, scroll to the bottom of the page and click the ‘Update Your Account Details’ button. This will open a new page; the ‘cancel’ link is in the ‘Billing Details’ section.

Still have a question? Send a message via the Contact Form

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